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Who's Responsible If a CO2 Storage Site Leaks?

If any U.S. company should feel safe involving itself in carbon capture and storage projects, it should be Kinder Morgan.

The Houston-based pipeline giant already transports 1.3 billion cubic feet of carbon dioxide a day through 1,300 miles of pipelines that comprise the country’s largest such network. The CO2 is used to pump oil out of the ground in a process known as enhanced oil recovery.

Yet, CEO Rich Kinder says he wouldn't touch a CCS project right now, not until the government answers some serious questions about legal liability if something goes wrong.

“I would be remiss and probably hung out to dry if I said I'm taking on that,” Kinder told the Reuters Global Energy Summit in Houston. "This is a plaintiff lawyer's dream."

Questions about who would be legally responsible for damage that might result from carbon stored underground are among the major hurdles that CCS faces, in addition to its high cost and the long timeline for getting the still-developing technology into large-scale operation.

The technology has powerful backers in Washington. President Obama and Energy Secretary Steven Chu tout CCS as a key strategy for cutting U.S. carbon emissions. The Waxman-Markey climate bill racing through the U.S. House includes $10 billion for CCS development, and the stimulus package apportioned $3.4 billion for CCS demonstration projects. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change estimates that CCS could cover 15% to 55% of the carbon dioxide reductions needed to prevent dangerous climate change.

But Kinder points out that even if governments put a high enough price on carbon emissions to make CCS a financially attractive option, companies would still steer clear until major legal issues are resolved:

Kinder Morgan is not “willing to sign up for guaranteeing to the U.S. government or to whomever that it will forever stay in the ground in this salt dome in Louisiana – and if it doesn't – just come back and see ole Kinder Morgan and we'll make you good for it."

"We're not going to do that, and no right-thinking person would."

There are several legal liability questions surrounding CCS:

    -What if the stored carbon affects drinking water by making it acidic or bringing metals into the groundwater supply?

    -Who should be responsible for damages to the ecosystem is the carbon is released?

    -Who pays if the pressure from the carbon underground increases a tendency towards earthquakes in the area?

    -What happens if the carbon underground travels to a site owned by someone else?

    -If eventually a price is placed on carbon emitted to the atmosphere, who will pay if carbon stored underground leaks out, contributing to climate change?

    -Is a CCS operator still liable for any damages that occur 10 years or 50 years after a site is closed?

Tim Bradley, president of Kinder Morgan’s carbon dioxide group, say ownership issues also need to be settled before businesses will embrace CCS projects.

For example, he says, 100 square miles are necessary to contain the carbon dioxide emissions from an average-sized power plant. A lot of people own the tracts of land above that storage space.

“So who owns the porous space? [The tiny pockets below ground where the CO2 is stored, shown in the photo] And what if we can’t get all of them in the area to agree? Do we abandon the project and look elsewhere? Our point is that it’s hard to be a leader and jump into this opportunity until that opportunity is better defined.”

CO 2 pressure at 50 degrees is very high

Hi,

Have you heard of a leaking underground propane storage system, the "tank" was originally built to store natural gas at a low pressure, then someone wanted to start to store liquid propane.

The "tank" was a salt storage container that was underground, and they injected Liquid Propane, that boils at a realatively warm -40 degrees at 0 PSI. Within a year, the liquid propane had warmed up, and a lot of it went missing, so the company injected more propane.

Injecting CO2 into the ground is even a higher pressure once is it not under pressure.

Here is a pressure / temperature chart for CO2, it shows that at 55F, the CO2 will go back to 900 PSI. If it stays at - 140 F or -100 C, then the gas might stay a solid. But if it warms up to -65F or -50C, then the pressure increases to 65 PSI.

http://www.coldsystemsllc.com/co2-refrigeration.html

Did you ever hear the earth is warm down below 1,000 feet below the ground level?

Did you ever watch that TV show about the oil and gas processing plant in the North Atlantic, that sequesters about all of the CO2 into the oil field below the drilling platform? Any chance that the bubbles coming up below the platform is the CO2 that was just pumped below ground, warmed up, and followed the pipeline back up to the surface?

I think that Co2 will leak out of the ground much faster than the propane from the LP gas field.

Fred.

Very informative

Because of this, I was able to gain better comprehension about Carbon Dioxide and how to deal with it and I hope that a lot of people would be able to read this.

CSC liability

I'm not worried about the leakage potential, from what I have seen chemically and geologically I think its fairly sound. I'm far more concerned about the ability to actually capture CO2 economically. I have only seen proposals and pilot plants capable of doing modest quantities when compared to the grand scale enterprise this effort will require. Only in January did the energy department give any guidelines and they were only a first draft. In the long run its going to be a combination of a lot of different actions that will curtail the steady increases. I manufacture and supply CO2 measuring equipment and see the constant climb. I think that many are missing the bigger picture, left unchecked it will have conseqeunces that we have not uncovered yet.
Ray Hicks, www.co2meter.com

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