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If there is any doubt that Washington, D.C., is where hyperbole, distortions and silly arguments come home to roost, that doubt disappears as we listen to congressional debate on climate and energy policy. Even some of the statements coming from the Obama team lately inspire a loud “Huh?”
Jon Stewart would win a Nobel Prize for Truth, if one were awarded for diligence in revealing how some members of Congress, not to mention the conservative chattering classes, regularly insult the American people’s intelligence. Unfortunately, he’s only on the air 30 minutes each day.
Also unfortunately – and here’s an inconvenient truth – not all of the American people are intelligent enough about climate change to know their intelligence has been insulted. It’s a complicated topic made even more complicated by bogus arguments.
So, in the spirit of improving the quality of the debate, and with unapologetic imitation of another political satirist on night-time TV, here are today’s
Top 10 Bogus Statements of the Climate Debate (hereafter referred to as “BS”)
#10 BS: The United States can’t make a firm commitment to reduce greenhouse gases until China and India do.
Reality check: With this statement, international climate negotiations assume the stature of an Alphonse and Gaston routine. The modern version – “I’m not going to do the right thing until you do the right thing” – would be comical if it weren’t so childish and potentially tragic.
Why shouldn’t the United States make a hard commitment to cut carbon before China, India and other developing nations do? As I noted in Grading a Climate Bill: 4 Key Tests, we’re responsible for most of the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere today. We have been emitting them with abandon for generations.
On the other hand, many developing nations such as China and India are attempting to pull millions of their people from poverty. I don’t believe they deny their obligation to help solve the climate problem. In fact, many of China’s clean energy goals are more aggressive than ours. But they want the leeway to help their people approach the standard of living we enjoy in the U.S.
What the hell: Let’s be big about this and agree to go first. If we’re worried about a trade disadvantage with countries that don’t have carbon regulation, then let’s institute a “border adjustment” – the price those countries should pay for not agreeing to hard targets.
#9 BS: Coal will be with us for a long time to come. In a recent interview, the chief White House environmental advisor, Nancy Sutley of the Council on Environmental Quality, said: “[C]learly coal is a part of our energy mix now and it’s likely to be so in the future... [E]ven if we were to stop using coal tomorrow, it’s used around the world and we have to deal with its environmental impacts.”
Reality check: Of course we must deal with coal’s environmental problems, but the best way to do that is to stop using it. Accepting that coal is part of our future is not a policy that motivates us to find substitutes. And whether we can deal with its environmental impacts is open to question.
We don’t yet have and may never find a cost-effective and safe way to permanently sequester huge amounts of carbon dioxide from coal. If the technology ever is perfected, it will significantly increase the price of electric power from coal, while the price of power from renewable resources is coming down.
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top ten bogus climate statements
Anonymous, above, has his own bogus statements about how it's all just a normal natural warming cycle.
I wonder if he's ever heard of the carbon cycle and what happens to it when you take 65 million years of accumlated carbon, in the form of coal, and put it into the atmosphere, and hence onto the short term carbon cycle.
That coal was formed by carbon precipitating out of the short term cycle and being "sequestered" away in the long term carbon cycle in the form of coal. This took 65 million years. That helped keep the short term carbon cycle in a balance that makes life as we know it possible on this planet. We are now reversing that process in a few hundred years, or a geological nanosecond. That is not a natural cycle. In fact it is unprecedented, as far as we know, in the history of the planet. Oil is basically the same story.
CCS coal is questionable, but not bogus, as a solution wedge
You know that it is not genuine (a synonym for bogus) to dismiss CCS. A Belfer Center report released today argues that CCS costs can drive down enough for it to play a role in GHG reductions. Some serious mitigation advocates believe coal with CCS will have an essential role to play. To call this solution wedge bogus rather than questionable is itself a distortion.
I fully support your argument that a cost-effective renewable energy ecosystem is the right goal, and achievable if the social cost of coal is factored into its price. But when vested interests distort reality to say coal and nuclear are our only scalable solutions, it only muddies our understanding to distort reality in return.
Climate science
For all the good intentions expressed at this website, the fact remains that "climate change science" is not true science but rather an attempt to prove a hypothesis that climate change is forced principally by anthropogenic emissions - without the benefit of validation. The study and prediction of climate change is, by necessity, an evaluation of the past and the assumption that similar relationships will hold going forward.
Because of the immense scale, long time periods, and non-linearity of the very complex processes of long-term climate change, controlled experimentation to prove a hypothesis that climate change is (or is not) the product of anthropogenic carbon emissions is impossible. Therefore, the relationships that go into any climate change model are the product of historical data and the model developer(s) interpretation of that data going forward. In other words, this climate change science is more of a 'belief system' than 'true science.'
I have spent most of a 35-year engineering career in the research, development, and commercialization of renewable energy and environmental technologies and have followed the path to today's 'climate change' legislative initiatives over that time period. I find the 'science' that serves as a basis to legislatively limit GHG (particularly CO2) emissions greatly lacking by virtually ignoring the natural phenomena that have occurred over the past 40-50 years - the same time period over which the 'global warming' phenomenon has been patterned.
Just one example - One of the most signficant oversights has been the role in climate change of the increase in seismic activity during this period. In 1964, there were nominally 5700 (global) documented seismic events. In 2004, there were over 120,000 (global) seismic events with the increase between 1964 and 2004 approximating an exponential profile. Many of these seismic events occurred in the oceans contributing to new thermal vents and underwater volcanos. While an accurate count of the new thermal release formations is not available, oceanographers continue to be surprised by findings of new underwater volcanos.
Yet, the climate change models reflected in the work of the IPCC give no credence to this input of energy and GHG into ocean waters. Every unit of energy and every molecule of GHG released from the earth's core into ocean waters sooner or later has an impact on atmospheric conditions. Yet, several noted climate change scientists have made the outrageous statement that there is no thermal contact between submarine volcanic activity and surface water temperature due to density differences in ocean waters at different depths. Since when did heat transfer become driven by 'delta density' instead of 'delta temperature?'
In 1999, a high level of submarine volcanic activity occurred in the Arctic Ocean. Observations of decreasing Arctic ice begin to surface shortly thereafter. Yet, 'global warming scientists' have dissed the relationship calling any correlation as 'coincidence'. I have even read articles where 'global warming scientists' have referenced ocean water temperature increases in the vicinity of underwater volcanoes as further evidence of man-made 'global warming.'
The promotion of renewable energy and energy conservation should be made in the name of 'domestic energy security' along with the proper use of fossil fuels and nuclear. Climate change will always be with us from natural phenomena.
Let's not force the public to pay for the 'belief system' of 'global warming' any more than they should be forced to pay for a 'state church'.
Dear Mr. Anonymous, Can you
Dear Mr. Anonymous,
Can you point to any peer reviewed literature to back up your point of view? Otherwise it falls into the category of amateur speculation whose credibility is further weakened by your reluctance to share your identity.
You say in 1964, there were nominally 5700 documented seismic events, and that by 2004 the number of these events had jumped exponentially to over 120,000.
Where is Chicken Little when we need him?!!
Are you sure the increase was not merely the result of increased scientific measurement of the phenomenon during that period? How do we know that there aren't really 500,000 seismic events going on right now, and there always have been, only we didn't know it? How is a "seismic event defined? Has the definition changed over time, given new measuring technology?
These are basic questions, among many others, that need scientific review and publication, before amateurs like yourself can feel confident opining in public that climate change is being caused by earthquakes.
Unless of course you're aiming to get into the next top ten BS list of bogus statements.
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