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The nation's first greenhouse gas rules for vehicles don't stop at the tailpipe, at least not for electric vehicles.
When the EPA and U.S. Department of Transportation released their new fuel efficiency and greenhouse gas emissions rules for cars and light trucks today, they included a plan to eventually count electric vehicles' emissions all the way back to their power source: CO2-emitting power plants.
Counting only the tailpipe emissions, EVs clock in at zero. That’s great news for automakers, who under the new rules will have to meet a fleetwide average greenhouse gas standard of 250 grams per mile by 2016 (roughly equivalent to 35.5 miles per gallon).
But that’s not the whole story, as EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson explained:
Electric vehicles are frequently advertised as zero emissions, but “we all know that that’s not entirely true, because when you plug in, there’s some emissions from the source." Currently in the U.S., that source is often burning coal, and that means greenhouse gas emissions.
According to the EPA’s calculations, for a midsize car, electricity’s upstream emissions are about three times higher than gasoline’s upstream emissions.
“Based on GHG emissions from today’s national average electricity generation (including GHG emissions associated with feedstock extraction, processing, and transportation) and other key assumptions related to vehicle electricity consumption, vehicle charging losses, and grid transmission losses, a midsize EV might have an upstream GHG emissions of about 180 grams/mile, compared to the upstream GHG emissions of a typical midsize gasoline car of about 60 grams/mile,” the EPA writes.
“Thus, the EV would cause a net upstream GHG emissions increase of about 120 grams/mile. … The net upstream GHG impact could change over time, of course, based on changes in electricity generation or gasoline production.”
That’s still a benefit to automakers, since the fleet average goal is 250 grams per mile, but it isn't a strong as when EVs count as zero emissions.
The special rules for electric vehicles won't hit immediately. To help promote the still young technology, the new federal rules offer a temporary incentive: Each manufacturer can count its first 200,000 EVs, fuel cell vehicles and the electric portion of plug-in hybrid electric vehicles produced in model years 2012-2016 as “zero emissions.” Manufacturers who produce more than 25,000 of those vehicles in model year 2012 can go up to 300,000.
Realistically, the U.S. market is unlikely to see 200,000 electric vehicles on the road any time soon, according to analysts. So, the incentive gives automakers a hand in meeting their fleetwide emissions obligations, promotes the production of electric vehicles, and creates an extra five-year time span for utilities to begin cleaning up their emissions. State renewable portfolio standards and uncertainty about the regulatory future of coal-fired power are already pushing many utilities toward greater reliance on clean energy and renewable sources.
It also gives automakers time to promote electric-powered vehicles and to work with government and industry to develop the supporting infrastructure.
Consumers are becoming more willing to buy electric vehicles, but cost and infrastructure — where to recharge — are still issues, said AutoPacific analyst Stephanie Brinley.
“If people don’t adapt to buying EVs fast enough, there will still be a need for government incentives,” she said.
Several of the major automakers had urged the EPA to keep the “zero-emissions” label permanent, in part to raise consumer confidence in a relatively new type of vehicle.
The Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers argued during the comments period on the rule that “customers need to receive a clear signal that they have made the right choice.”
Real TONS of CO2 for electric car
SO when they say this gasoline car produces X tons/year, which includes CO2 generated in geting the fuel to market, what would the equivalent statement be for an electric car using coal getnerated electricity?
Incorrect fact in your article
I quote :
"That’s great news for automakers, who under the new rules will have to meet a fleetwide average greenhouse gas standard of 250 grams per mile by 2016 (roughly equivalent to 35.5 miles per gallon)"
grams of CO2/mile and MPG of fuel are totally different and should not necessarily be seen in correlation with each other. Improving MPG does not necessarily improve CO2 emissions
True Patriots Will Drive Electric Vehicles
Ridiulous standards by the oil industry to keep electric out of cars. How can you count the upstream for electric but not the upstream for gas powered or hydrogen. I am in Southern California and am producing on most days of the summer 100% of my electricty from Solar Panels on my roof installed for free (to me). (For more on this see SolarCity do-t com they install for free and lease them back knocking 20% off your electric bill at zero cost to the consumer). If I charged from them aren't my miles emmission free? How about all the windmills we have in the pass to Palm Springs?
Are they figuring in the emmissions contributed by the BP Oil Spill? I am sure those direct emmissions -100% tracable to the auto industry- will be disregarded.
I am sick of 20mm barrels a day being purchased by the US with the dollars to pay for those being funnelled out of the country only to come flying back as bullets and IEDs. That is $1.3blln a day (*@ $65 a bbl) funneling out of this economy and into someone elses. If this stayed in our economy, there would be an extra $433m in tax revenue collected each day (based on 100% profit and 1/3 tax rate) Thats how we fund the budget deficit and pay for national healthcare (which I get for free from the gov't anyway but think everyone should be entitled to have).
I am sick of all the neo-AM talk radio that spout policies that help our enemies. Driving an electric car (the automotive battery industry has almost 100% recycling and will likely continue to do so with the valuable LIthium component being present in bulk) may have a social stigma attached to it that causes people to affilitate it with long haired hippy protestors, but as a Gulf War vet, I see this directly tied to Red, White and Blue. Driving an electric car is the most american thing a true Patriot can do.
Electric vehicles recharged
Electric vehicles recharged from onboard hydrogen fuel cells are truly zero emission vehicles. The hydrogen can be produced through several zero emission processes thereby producing a truly zero emission "well to wheel" transportation solution. Lawrence Weisdorn
Those darn batteries
Yeah now the landfills will have all these electric car batter cells in them. Then what? Nobody wants to hear it but if it's efficiency we are looking for then we have this technology called the internal combusion engine. It is VERY efficient! WE just need to keep working on MPG.
The energy it takes to
The energy it takes to extract a gallon of gasoline is enough to drive an electric car about 35 miles. It takes a bit of fuzzy math to make the upstream effects worse for electricity when it's better to leave the oil in the ground and use the electricity to drive an electric car than to extract and refine the oil to drive a typical ICE car.
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